Heroic Ragnaros vs Heroic Deathwing

I'm hopping mop raids are not going to be nowhere near these.

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I would like to see how much Achievements in general have gone up. Due to I want to know if people are working on them while waiting for MoP.

Yet you do not show any numbers for the amount of guild's that are stuck at heroic spine 10/25. Why is that? Everyone who has cleared 8/8 HM know that the hardest boss in the instance is not madness. Where as in Firelands 25 HM Rag was the most difficult boss in the instance.

they do show it.. if you can down heroic spine, you are downing madness..

so whatever the number for Blackthorn is (just shy of 11k?) is the cutoff between those who can kill spine and those who cannot.

This is awesome, tyvm.

How about 10 vs 25 man?
US vs World? Or something comparing the above data by regions. Just a thought :)

Interesting. Would like to see a similar post for H 10man. And general activity for what people are doing between now and MoP. Are there more achievement groups going? Is progression in DS increasing with the nerfs or have people lost interest?

Thanks for the stats - pretty intriguing. Also curious about the guilds stuck at 6/7H (FL) vs 6/8H (DS).

The reason why 25 man guilds stopped doing Ragnaros heroic after DS release is that they switched to 10 man Firelands runs for those who want/need it. It's mostly achievements, mounts and Dragonwrath farm that's keeping people in there, and it's easier to organise and run a 10 man group for these purposes.

People lost interest in game because blizzard made very easy ,like it's for children under 14 years when people start to nag about the difficulty they go and nerf the boss ASAP which let people that really want to do something that not every can do loose interest in game as my self.i hope that MOP will have more challenging bosses and encounters that hardly some people can finish so it will stay interesting for grown ups.

Thank you

I had Dethwing and Ragnaros fighting each over on my private server. Most fun :)

me and my guild members dont wana see new expansion with a lot of nerf patches .its realy Ridiculous ,most ppl quit the game becuase of these nerf patches they kills ppls motivation , and make wow as avery low lvl game .

i definately like the nerfs, my group would still be on 25hm spine without them. Blizz needs to come up with bridge material between patches to keep up with demand. Maybe hell mode or something, for Max geared groups.

Do it without the buff

I do not like the nerfs. While our group is still fighting with spine, it's more a function of an unstable lineup than a mechanic of the fight that we are having difficulty overcoming. I do not mind having to spend a long time on the fights. Coming from FFXI, heroic encounters in wow are trivially easy by comparison. I'd rather spend months and get a sense of accomplishment, than simply wait for the boss to get old and break a hip on his own.

Agreed

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I hope they gonna make raids bit different then that they currently are at.

1) For cassual guilds there is LFR, keep and stick there if you don't wanna go for Hardmodes its not for you guys if you can't stay out of bad stuff.. It's your own fault not like blizzard have to nerf it for you to clear it within 2-3 days instead of 2weeks of practice. Aswell normal is good for you only

2) mid core Raiders you got normal mode and practice Hardmodes do not cry to much, cause you know how to play but you need to be more careful what you doing

3)Hardcore raiders exactly what they need is hardmodes without the nerfs, if blizzard nerf them its to easy for the hardcore raiders and then you will see the results in killin compare Heroic Ragnaros vs Deathwing deathwing was nothing beside spine,

I do i hope to see alot improvement in MoP and not that they nerf cause its to hard, People learn from mistakes and wipe for weeks thats how raiding should be and not like 1 month raid and its been cleared..

This explains everything. Stop making it too easy Blizz!

Well, you will have 2 month's without nerfs for clearing HM.
WOW is based on time not on difficulty like it was pre WotLK
That s a logical consequence of having to master 85 - 90 levels

i hope blizzard make raids with sense of dificulty because in DS some boses have been not much hardcore and need separate LFR from normal and HC modes because with LFR sistem some players included me burnout so quickly

Hey, I would love to see some stats about how active are raiders within guilds that made heroic progress in last ~9 weeks, especially if these are the same people who made last 1st hc kill with that guild.

ex.
HC Morchok with people a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j (original setup)
HC Warlord Zon'ozz with people a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,A,B (2 new people)
HC Hagara with people a,b,c,d,A,C,D,E,F,G (4 new people, 1 semi-new)

I would love to know how big rotations are in these active guilds, ie how many people are now on the next kills.

Maybe the new of guild completing isnt changing but I can say at least for my server that the number of individual people is declining alarmingly fast. We still have most of our main guild running but........these guilds went from having 2-6 groups a week down to 1 and maybe an alt run. Most of the single remaining core teams per guild are barely staying afloat pulling in pugs every week to fill gaps.

You're comparing the wrong bosses, it should be Rag vs Spine, not that it'd make much of a difference either way you can see rag was harder.

Ya, people been spoiled in ds... Need more mechanics then ah stack guys burn spread guys burn, uhhhh push button burn