Amount of Pulls on WoWProgress!


1 year ago


WoWProgress is now tracking amount of pulls on different bosses for all guilds and characters!
1. Go to guild page.
2. Progression table contains new column: Pulls.
3. Click "+show".

It will show raid setup including:
- characters that killed the boss
- replaced characters that didn't participated in the first kill
- amount of pulls for each character!



Here is some info about amount of pulls that did the top guilds before killing heroic bosses.

Will of the Emperor Heroic 25-man
1. Method 108 pulls
2. Envy 46 pulls
3. vodka 76 pulls
4. Blood Legion 107 pulls

Grand Empress Shek'zeer Heroic 25-man
1. Blood Legion 85 pulls
2. Method 156 pulls
3. Wraith 109 pulls
4. vodka 125 pulls

Will of the Emperor Heroic 10-man
1. DREAM Paragon 19 pulls
2. КрашТест 60 pulls
3. solid line 58 pulls
4. Die Hordlinge 59 pulls

Grand Empress Shek'zeer Heroic 10-man
1. DREAM Paragon 142 pulls
2. Freak Me Out 111
3. КрашТест 147 pulls

Note: no all guilds have been updated yet. If you see the info is missing, press the "Update Guild Progress" button.


Update:
As the data has been removed from the API by Blizzard, we had to disable the feature now.

Comments

  1. DartMaul
    Овераггро
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    This is the most brilliant and useful idea ever!
    Thank you very much!
  2. Mihir
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Great feature, thanks! Any way you could add some kind of overview page per boss to see who has the best performance pulls-wise on a specific boss?
  3. Helltiger
    Mavè
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    These data seems to be inaccurate. Maybe is sums all pulls in nHC and HC together?
  4. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    1 year ago
    If you want it fixed, you should give me more info (boss names, character names).
  5. oraculum
    Poena
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Does this stop tracking "pulls" after you get a boss kill?
  6. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    1 year ago
    Yes, it should.
  7. Gondlem
    Gondlem#1791
    Gondlem Midwinter
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Some of this information is defintiely inaccurate. For example, for Will of the Emperor some people in my guild are counted as having 92-93 pulls, but we killed that biss in one night of attempts, about 30-40 at most. Also, there are people who were in for every attempt before we killed it that have less than the full number. Definitely not correct, both in terms of numbers and player by player breakdown.

    Some other bosses seem accurate though so it's definitely a bug with specific encounters.
  8. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    1 year ago
    Thanks, should be fixed by now.
    Let me know if there are other bosses with incorrect info.
  9. Mevrian
    Mevrian Happy Ending
    Rating: +3 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    What about if you don't want all your pulls displayed? How do you turn it off?
  10. Eternity
    pr3d#2661
    Rivage DepthCore
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    As i guess it uses armory API to gain those "hidden" statistics, i don't think it can be turned off.
  11. alykii
    Kykki Masochistic Tendencies
    Rating: -3 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Are you now factoring in the amount of pulls in the ranking scores? For example in a given week:
    Guild A goes in on Tuesday and kills a boss in 30 pulls
    Guild B goes in on Wednesday and kills the same boss in 25 pulls

    As it is now, Guild A gets more points for killing the boss "sooner" and is ahead of guild B. Guild B is at a disadvantage because they raid on wednesday instead of tuesday. Factoring the amount of pulls would be a more accurate/even way of ranking (in addition to when a boss was killed).

    Great feature

    /cheers
  12. Zakalwe
    Gobuchul Skunkworks
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Should just take it all the way to its logical conclusion and make a ranking that only takes into account number of pulls, not time (or day or week) of kill.
  13. Stingray
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Not sure if you're serious, but you'd still have to take lockout (week #) into account since everyone has more gear (and boss nerfs) as each week goes by.
  14. Vulgrym
    Vulgrym#1355
    Vulgrym Temerity
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    While it's fun to think about (I also raid in a guild that has a limited schedule), you can't completely discount that earlier kills are accomplished at lower gear levels and with less proliferation of information.

    Still, I love this feature.
  15. Cybnext
    Khay Bear Retirement Home
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Definitely noticing some bugs for some guilds on my realm (unless they're only publishing a few of their attempts on WoL. (WP is showing 29 pulls and WoL is showing 10).
  16. dgdr1991
    Smush Algoritmo
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Is there any way we can have this feature for bosses a guild has not killed?

    For example, we've been wiping on the first boss of HoF, and I'd like to know how many times we've wiped.

    Great feature by the way :D
  17. Qroth
    Qroth#2267
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    You could just install an addon that tracks it, such as Deadly Boss Mods.
  18. Helltiger
    Mavè
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Stone Kings HC we are counted as having 5 pulls, but we killed them in about 2-3 pulls.

    @alykii Its a different if you have to find a taktik for the boss or you have already 3-4 videos from the top guilds to adept. It would be really hard to calculate these fairly.
  19. alykii
    Kykki Masochistic Tendencies
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    I meant within the same week a boss goes down, more points should go to the guild that pulled fewer attempts rather than tuesday vs wednesday.

    Of course the further away from when the raid is unlocked should also be taken in to account. The guild that killed Grand Empress 3 weeks ago should still be higher than the guild that killed it yesterday.
  20. Kyok
    Koyot#2235
    Kyok Twierdza
    Rating: +2 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    I want to hide this feature. Is this possible?
  21. Saithe
    Invection WHATEVER WERE AWESOME
    Rating: +2 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    This "Feature" is actually pretty annoying since it captures people who have joined as F&F or as apps wipes from previous guilds also even when they're not on the active raid roster.
  22. Kathell
    Kathel
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Intersting feature, but i didn't like it for 1 reason. I pulled the Spirit Kings heroic several times reseting it to avoid Meng or the caster boss. The pull counter doesn't consider a real pull.
  23. Shaerlyn
    Shaerlyn Rabenbanner
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    An overview would be awesome. Maybe in the boss overview. The number listed there could be the most comon pull count for a kill in the guild for example. You will never get this overview accurate, but it could be a first view so you don't have do look it up in every guild
  24. Draigars
    Dryaan
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Very interesting feature. Shouldn't be more than another funny statistic though, no need of any ranking based upon it here (too many biases: gear, strats, context, etc.).
  25. Woodgnome
    Kregan Frenzy
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    How's this data pulled?

    I'm already inspired to make something similar to track progress on my own realm, but I don't see any pulls/wipes/deaths to boss(es) defined in the Blizzard API - hence my question.
  26. oraculum
    Poena
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    So far this is one of the most favorite features from WoWprogress and I too am super curious about how this was done.
  27. Vaxum
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    I also would like to understand where this data is coming from. For a lot of evenings we have multiple people streaming World of Logs logs, to capture data on fights where there is phasing - is this going to have any effect on the WoWProgress pull count #s for our kills?
  28. chey
    nahiko#2537
    Nahiko Myth
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    /quote by "Gobuchul": "Should just take it all the way to its logical conclusion and make a ranking that only takes into account number of pulls, not time (or day or week) of kill."


    This!!

    If pull-only rankings aren't possible (that's what I expect..), then it would at least be nice to have some pull-rankings in addition to the actual ones.
  29. ludey
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    It would be interesting to see, per encounter, a histogram / distribution of number attempts before kill. For me, looking at such graphs would be an indicator of expected encounter difficulty.
  30. hurricup
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    There is on mmochampion. Relative T14 boss difficulties.
  31. ludey
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    tyvm
  32. Fallensnow
    Xenyatta Acme Corp
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Something tells me this won't be as keen-o as people think it is. When your guild is struggling because some key players left for whatever reason, you haven't had a chance to replace them yet and your pull count is then higher, how many people will want to join a guild that has 100 pulls on something when another guild that didn't lose anyone has 75 or 50? I can see this killing guilds down the road.
  33. Philoo
    Phlo#2948
    Phlo Créatures
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    don't you want to also attract people who want to wipe less, with your low pull-count? double-edged, etc.. FAIR
  34. Philoo
    Phlo#2948
    Phlo Créatures
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Suggestion: ask for a manifest of the roster for each raid/guild.
    It could be automatically generated, or manually edited by the admins of the respective raids.

    And it would solve the problem of the "friends & family" wipes being added to the total.
  35. Abbatron
    Funkmaster#1933
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Love this, thank you!
  36. oraculum
    Poena
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    I had an additional question.
    We are a 25man guild but does normal progression bosses in 10man after our 25man week wraps up. In the case of Garalon, we got a 10man kill after several 10 and 25man attempts. When the guild returns for a 25man kill, how will that track/update?
  37. Xiie
    Sarah#2189
    Xiie GameSense
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    How do you get this info?

    For my guild a lot of extra people are appearing that were never in the raid group. For example, my guild's Will of the Emperor kill (http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/xavius/GameSense) only has 7 people who were actually in the raid. The 8th person (showing up as 'not killed') wasn't even in that raid.

    Also, is it intentionally not including people who left the guild?
  38. Mevi
    Mevi#2338
    Mevi Drachensilber
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Fine that more features get added on here, but I'd rather see the bugs fixed with the sdisplay of wrong main/alt chars! I'm still showing up as an alt from my boyfriend (who of course has his ver own account!), all my alts are also shown as his alts. Emailed to wowprogress a while ago, no reaction. Please clear that up, my chars are my chars on my account and not on anyone else's!
  39. tripzplash
    tripzplash#2714
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    can we pls try to fix achievement players some players have 2-11 chars on the lists and i know a level 85 cant do all the level 90 but hes still ranked high becouse it is bugget
  40. Zuper
    Rating: -2 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Was about time , those are the best guilds not the ones who play 24/7 and make 500 wipes and get world first for having no life !
  41. Zuper
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    And this is also something blizzard should do in the game .
  42. Drayo
    Drayo Essential
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Any plan on adding this feature for TES ?
  43. mortalitasx
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    How many members do you need for your guild to get credit in 10 M?
  44. RegwintheMage
    Regwin
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    WTB data center info in realm listings - really important for for lfg people to consider latency of any new realm.
  45. Schrom
    Schroom#2977
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    mh so what I see out of this, there is a guild shown having downed 2 Bosses before us, so they are in front of us in progression, but actually there where only 3 players who had joined another raid to down those bosses.
    so even tho only 3 players of a guild kill a boss it gets counted as guildkill. why? :(
  46. Rust
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    The Pulls counter has issues w/ players transferring in that are better progressed. See my current guild - Hahyestwo transferred in with H Elegon and H Gara'jal already downed, so pulls weren't counted for our guild but instead based on his pull count. I guess there's no easy way for you to distinguish though.
  47. Peilo
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Is Kernel still around here? ... can anybody tell him to check and correct the Diablo3 HC Paragon ladder? The #15 should be #13.
  48. greydust
    小灰 神樣
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Is this feature still functions correctly? It is not tracking any pulls in ToES and not correct for guilds that downed bosses after 5.1.
    For example, this guild's Grand Empress Shek'zeer's data is incorrect:
    http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/tw/nightsong/Asgard
    I tracked other boss kills after 5.1 and it seems not to gather proper data after a specific time.
  49. SmokeHead
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Ye it haven't updated our 5 new boss kill's pulls from Monday and Tuesday either.

    This function is very nice but doesn't seem to work correctly atm?
  50. Shadowseek
    shadowseek#1673
    Shadowseek Dark Trinity
    Rating: +2 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/248538-pulls-statistic-in-characters-feed/

    Might explain why it isn't updating. Wasn't meant to be public info.
  51. Stingray
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Was fun while it lasted.
  52. Norsemang
    Unholymang
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    1 year ago
    Wow, way to ruin a great feature Blizztard
  53. Daltin
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    It... Wasn't a feature? That's why it was hidden.

    It was hidden API for their own research. They used that information for multitude of reasons. Balancing, nerfing, finding legitimate brick walls.
  54. Philoo
    Phlo#2948
    Phlo Créatures
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    mostly this served as proof that WoWProgress is still on top of its sh**, and remains the best tool to browse guilds.
  55. Honalee
    Honalee
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 year ago
    This is disappointing... I found this feature handy and useful for a number of different reasons... I was also a good way to let your raid team they were still great raiders on a raid night or two a week and still competitive progression wise with teams that raid 3-5 nights a week...




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