Is WoWProgress Population Data a Fiction?


4 months ago


Recently Blizzard CM Drazta mentioned (in Spanish) that WoWProgress Population data is "incredibly inaccurate".
I would like to comment and provide more info about how we calculate WoW population.

Players asked question about population of RP realm Los Errantes (according to our data this realm has only about 1000 PvE players).
Drazta's answer was: "This is a lie, Los Errantes has more population than any PvP realm".

This is our definition of Population:
Population - amount of unique players that meet any of the two conditions:
- has a level 90 character that killed something in Tier 16 Normal
- has a level 90 character in a guild that killed something in Tier 16 Normal

So basically we count all high level members of guilds that killed at least one boss in Tier 16 content.

It's reasonable that there are about 1000 players on the realm that has only 22 guilds in Tier 16 rankings, averaging 45 unique players per guild.

Now you can say that there are much more players, because not everyone likes raiding and many raiders only do LFR and Flex difficulty.

Yes, this is true, especially for RP realms such as Los Errantes. On RP realms there are more players that interested in Role Playing rather than organized raiding.

Now imagine you are a player that interested in PvE Progression and you're given data about full WoW population (we don't have such data, but imagine Blizzard gave it to you).

There you see that Los Errantes is high populated realm, you transfer there looking for PvE guild. And you find that there is only 1 guild that killed Garrosh Normal!

Now that would be incredible misleading!


WoWProgress is a website that's focused on PvE Progression and we provide you data that is relevant for PvE players.

Comments

  1. bamfkinhero
    Bamfkinhero Imba
    Rating: +12 [-][+]
    4 months ago
    Amen.
  2. Shamanamanah
    Airro Heresiarch
    Rating: -5 [-][+]
  3. squeakyzeeky
    Squeakyzeeky Dead Memories
    Rating: [-][+]
    2 months ago
    Well i can not seem to get my guild listed on here and i have emailed them several times!. Dead memories on us shadowsong is still not listed and we are 7/14 normal ten man progression and its annoying to not be listed
  4. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    2 months ago
    Your guild is listed, but it hasn't been updated for long time.
    You can easily find it using the big search form on the main page. Then you should click "update guild progress" button on the right side of the page.
  5. Shamanamanah
    Airro Heresiarch
    Rating: -5 [-][+]
  6. mlm430047
    Khaleezi Kaizen
    Rating: -8 [-][+]
  7. Porrgy
    Rating: -4 [-][+]
    4 months ago
    you're in the wrong place friend.
  8. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    4 months ago
    The API often returns internal errors lately
    http://us.battle.net/api/wow/guild/hydraxis/Kaizen returns {"status":"nok", "reason": "Internal server error."}
    That could be the reason.
  9. sanzoo
    Sanzoo The DarkSôul
    Rating: -2 [-][+]
    3 months ago
    sanzoo est en precison c ma classe pvp normalement je pve en maitrise des bête pouvez vous changer sa je suis le meilleur dps de ma guilde et le je suis dernier lol sinon pas grave je continuerai a battre mais recort de sim depuis que g le bonus 4 piece de la t 16 :)
  10. Taymatt
    Rating: -2 [-][+]
    3 months ago
    I find this amusing. Your comment is from a month ago, but the same thing is going on today. Our guild progress cannot update, because Wowprogress appears to update completely randomly. Only two out of the ten people on our last kill from three days ago are showing the kill, and I've updated it in every way possible countless times over the last three days. A google search turns up countless "fail to update" type problems over the last three years. And no, the problems have nothing whatsoever to do with battle.net, which is fully updated. For that matter, --- updated properly within minutes. It's just Wowprogress that is constantly broken.
  11. Arcannis
    Arcannis Requiem
    Rating: -4 [-][+]
    4 months ago
    What Draztal says is true, but not at all. Los Errantes has more population than just 1000 pve players, as this web states. What really happens is that people in a role play does more things than just pve.
    Just use wowprogress for its true purpose, looking for pve progression on realms.
  12. rasmusvedel
    Lyssy
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    2 months ago
    That is what he said -,-
  13. Radoznali
    Air#1001
    Rating: +7 [-][+]
    3 months ago
    When are you going to add something to see how conected realms are doing(there combined population)?That would be nice info to have as well
  14. unpsofable
    timotam#2747
    Toutoulis The Nephilim
    Rating: [-][+]
    2 months ago
    bump
  15. Booi
    Booi Nexus
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    3 months ago
    Scarlet Halls/Brewery Challenge mode times never update from armoury.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/Booi/challenge

    Character used to be on Scilla, wondering if that is causing an issue.
  16. iniquitee
    Keylii
    Rating: +2 [-][+]
    2 months ago
    What are your plans for handling server merges and guilds with cross-server members? Will they be tracked together or separately?
  17. unpsofable
    timotam#2747
    Toutoulis The Nephilim
    Rating: [-][+]
    2 months ago
    well as long as API won't show any connections, none of the sites can do it.
    Someone can do it manually , but that will require equal time spend with the blizzards API team plus any human errors.

    I would like to read an official statement though :)
  18. Spotnick
    Spotnick#1548
    Karuzo Razzia
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 month ago
    Speaking of that, when do you plan to change the site to reflect realm connections? For Warlords only?
  19. crimsonbolt
    Crimsonbolt Unrelenting Chaos
    Rating: [-][+]
    1 month ago
    Silly noob CM. it's not about the population and your dollar bills. this is about passionate raiders seeking rankings and seeking a guild with raiding progression in mind.
  20. Jibb
    Jibnibbin Zilthuras
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    26 days ago
    I dont know where to leave it other than here, but your information on prideful gear is out by 10 ilvl and thus stats being wrong




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